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So, just came back from seeing Saw V...

It wasn't a brilliant movie, but it wasn't as terrible as a lot of people made out in reviews. There was blood, the traps were pretty impressive, Billy the puppet was his scary self and Tobin Bell looks damn cute in glasses. It was mainly for his sake I saw the film anyway.

As a slash and other fanfics writer, was there anything that gave me plotbunnies? Well, yes and no... still will keep writing John/Zep and John/Amanda/Zep AUs. There's still scope I feel. I, as always, wish Zep had been kept as a recurring character instead of Hoffman being there, but Hoffman's still an interesting character. I did wonder if the emphasis on emotional detachment, the "heart never being involved" was mainly there as just a way to explain John's philosophy or if the writers were trying to surreptitiously discourage any John/Hoffman slash. I know that the creators, writers and actors of many fandoms are aware of us slash writers and some are OK with us and some aren't. Though I would be curious to see such a plotline though in fanfic - don't know if I want to be one of the pioneer writers of John/Hoffman as a pairing, seeing as I got so much flak over my John/Zep. Will think about that one...

That emotional detachment did give me some fuel for AU stories though... how much it would hurt to develop that detachment for John to test Zep and Amanda, and the joy of re-connecting with them should they pass their tests... hmm.

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antigoneschase
Nov. 1st, 2008 06:43 am (UTC)
Rant Mode On (Not at you, babe)
We saw it tonight TOO!

OMG OMG OMG. Dear people who thought they were trying to show Amanda and John NOT in a relationship? STFU and GTFO because ummm... duh? They were totally together. Hoffman even says that he's EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED to Amanda. So, what? They think because John made a tape for Jill that that means he didn't love Amanda?

...

What?

John was obviously not as ill in that tape. OBVIOUSLY. He made that tape near the time Saw I was set, in my opinion (MAYBE just before Saw II). Thus, Amanda was likely NOT his apprentice yet, and if she was it was too new for them to have any kind of romantic involvement. I personally picture John feeling great love for Jill (though it makes Amanda grit her teeth and try not to scream), even at the end of his life. Obviously, if he didn't love her, he would NOT have married her. Tragedy makes people different and they grew apart. John became Jigsaw, Jill became the cold bitch we see in Saw IV. Yes, I hate her, but frankly, the more I think about her, the more I understand her. In fact, I have a great deal of sympathy for her.

HER KEY! FOR THE BOX! So... Jill's the next apprentice? Because that key is the same one Amanda had, right? (It IS, I'm almost certain.) WTF WAS IN THAT BOX?

Frankly, I liked the movie, but as far as Amanda's concerned, the movies became "Just Movies" after 2. Parts of 3 she accepts and the other parts, she throws out with the dishwater. She has her own AU lifetimes and that's all that matters to her. Four she adores for finding out more about John's life, though she aches for him for a great deal of it. This one, she ADORED for the history of Hoffman and John (And WTF ScreenPlay writers? He was FORENSIC Hoffman, his badge said D. Hoffman, and you NAMED HIM MARK? WTF? REALLY! Hoffman as played in 6ws by workwillcarryon will continue to be Doug. Sorry canon, I reject your reality and substitute my own... for like, the majority of Amanda's life)
sweetcarolanne
Nov. 1st, 2008 08:02 am (UTC)
Re: Rant Mode On (Not at you, babe)
*hugs* YES to everything you said. Yes, yes, yes. *hugs in sympathy* In my eyes, John, Amanda and Zep will always be the OT3 (if John can break the detachment rule for Amanda he can do it for Zep!). Hoffman will always be Doug, and pffft to Jill, just pffft.

I live in AU from now on. Preferably the one we RP where Gideon lives! *hugs* <3333333333333333333333333333333333333
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